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MY VA STORY

     When I got out of the U.S. Army, after active duty time of a little over four years, I had a great VA Benefits Counselor.  He told me to get myself to the VA for a physical and helped me make arrangements.  What I got out of this was a service-connected disability and more than 23 years of grief from the VA.

     Again, I MUST state that the healthcare services I received from the VA were excellent...when I could get them.  The VA staff was always the best.  They are not the problem.  The people who staff our VA hospitals are overworked and underpaid and this is a major part of the problem.

     In 1999 I moved and had my VA records sent to the VA hospital nearest me.  Even though I had been in the system with a service-connected disability for nearly 20 years...I had to wait a full 18 months to get assigned to and see a Primary Care Provider.

     At the same time I was trying to get dental care.  I had all 20 pages of dental regulations in hand yet everyone said no.  The regulations said yes...and the VA said no.  This battle took two-and-a-half years.  I finally got my dental benefits.  But (I want to say I had to pull teeth to do it) I had to beg, cajole and finally use thinly-veiled threats.  THERE IS NO REASON FOR THIS!

     Below will be much of what I found out about dealing with the VA...most of it the hard way.  I hope it's of use.

WHAT I DID WRONG

     My first and biggest mistake was to think that the VA would tell me all about the benefits I had coming.  HA!  I must have looked like I just fell off the turnip truck.

     YOU have to find out about your benefits.  The VA will not come to you.  You must go to the mountain!  The best, quick source for this information is the annual Federal Benefits for Veterans and Dependents handbook which is printed by the VA.  You can order a copy from Powell's (see link at left).  You can download it for free at the VA website.  Or, you can download it for free right here.  Click here to download in PDF format
(170 pages/983kb).  Every regulation and ruling about every benefit is available for you to download.

     Also, find a good VA counselor.  They're everywhere!  And they have tons of information about healthcare benefits and many other programs.  You'll find them at VA hospitals and clinics.  Check local resources because states, counties and many cities have VA counselors or liaison officers.  Go to the local employment office.  Check colleges.  And, don't forget the veterans groups (Useful Links for Vets Page).

     Another mistake was listening to friends.  Everybody's an expert.  But they weren't.  Go to the source to get the information you need.  Don't get it second- and third-hand.

     Never, ever, ever, ever take NO for an answer.  I did that once and it took me ages to untangle the mess.

     And, don't expect anything from the Patient Advocate Office at the VA.  This is the perfect example of hiring the fox to guard the hen house.  My experience with the Patient Advocate is that they will listen, be sympathetic and then say NO.  Be sure to use the Patient Advocate Office as you work your way through the system.  But, don't expect anything from them.

SOME TIPS TO HELP YOU WITH THE VA

     1...ASK FOR HELP.  It's out there.  Seek it out.  Use sites like this and those listed on the Useful Links for Vets Page.  Go directly to the VA.  Go to service organizations.  I know this sounds so simple but help will not come to you.

     2...EXPLAIN WHAT YOU WANT.  Again, it seems so simple.  But you must know what you want and need so you can explain it fully when asking for help.  General requests like "I need help" tend to get put on the back burner.  Be specific about all medical situations.

     Do not use phrases like, "You haven't done this"...the person you are dealing with does not want a bitch-list.  Be POSITIVE.  State your wants and needs in positive terms like "I would like this, please"...and you will open up many doors with a positive attitude.

     3...NEVER GET ANGRY OR LOUD.  This is important!  If you tend to get angry, loud or pushy...DON'T!  You will be tuned-out immediately.  And, in the case of many governmental agencies, you could get your files coded with a "trouble-maker" tag.  Every agency will deny these type of tags exist...but they do.  Be calm.  Speak slowly.  Be polite.  Even if you end up dealing a dummy who you know doesn't care.

     Swearing is not a good idea.  Many people are very sensitive to this...some for religious reasons and some just because they don't like it.  No "F'ing" or "S'ing" or "GD'ing"as it will only turn people off.

     Don't tell any jokes.  Really?  Really!  What's funny to you WILL offend someone...I guarantee it!  And NEVER discuss the BIG THREE:  POLITICS, RELIGION, SEX.  This is the perfect way to PO someone who can help you get where you want to go inside the VA system.

     Never threaten anyone or joke about threatening anyone.  You WILL get thrown out and possibly end up with the VA police chatting with you.  You don't need that kind of trouble because it can be a Federal Offense and will follow you for life.  Also, it's always best to leave any knives (no matter how small) at home.  In the current climate of increased security even the smallest pocket knife could be considered a weapon.

     4...DRESS FOR SUCCESS.  This sounds so strange but I mean it!  Dress the best you possibly can when meeting with anyone at the VA.  Be sure to bathe and have clean hair.  Even if you have limited income try to find something other than jeans and a T-shirt.  The people at the VA are no different than anyone else...they will make judgments based on what they see.  You may think this wrong, and it is, but it is human nature.

     5...USE THE CHAIN OF COMMAND.  Don't try to start at the top as you try to resolve an issue.  You will just torque-off all the people you passed over on your way to the top.  Start at the bottom.  If you do not get the response you want...go up the next step in the chain of command.  Having angry people in your way does you no good.  Be sure to use the Patient Advocate Office at the VA hospitals.  Just don't expect any results.  If you get what you want that is excellent...but be prepared to go higher up the chain of command.

     6...MAKE LOTS OF FRIENDS ALONG THE WAY.  I cannot stress this enough! Make friends with everyone you work with at the VA.  Remember, a PO'd clerk can "accidentally" loose your paperwork...just think back to when you were on active duty and all the power your Company Clerk had at his command.

     Always say "Please" and "Thank you" and use phrases like, "I really need some help with this.  Can you help me?"  What this does is elevate the person with whom you are speaking and gives them a feeling of power and control...then make sure you smile a lot so they use their power to give you the help you need.

     Gather information from everyone along the way.  Ask things like, "What is my next step?" and "Where do I go from here?" and you'll be surprised how much information you get.

     7...KEEP NOTES AND MORE NOTES.  You MUST have a paper trail!  Know the name, official title and the responsibilities of every person with whom you speak or meet.  Make notes about the conversation and keep them in an organized file.  If you communicate by mail keep all letters in a file.  If you use email save the files on your computer and then print it out and put the hard copies in a file.

     Keep a timeline of your contacts: who, title, responsibilities, date, time, how contacted.  You can't expect to remember it all and this will really help you as you press forward with your issue.

     Try to learn as many email addresses as you can.  In the VA hospital system this will usually be:  firstname.lastname@med.va.gov.  When you communicate via email the VA will have a permanent record on their server and this could help if someone says they didn't get your message.

     8...HAVE ALL YOUR RECORDS.   Make sure you have copies of your military personnel and medical records (Useful Links for Vets Page).  If you are in the VA system already get a copy of your VA medical records.  You can request these at the VA hospital where you receive care. 

     Your records are invaluable in creating a timeline when making a claim.  Read all your records carefully.  If there are errors in your VA medical records you will not be able to get anything taken out, but you can have information added that will stand as a correction.  Make sure any errors are corrected because denial of a claim could come from bad information in your records.

     9...BE PREPARED TO GO TO THE TOP.  After many frustrating months trying to resolve an issue I ended up communicating with the Director of my local VA hospital.  He was considerate and, eventually, became very helpful (see below).  But, when you get to the top make sure you have your information in logical order and make sure it is accurate.  The quickest way to get bounced from the "halls of power" is to pass on inaccurate or false information.

     10...WHEN "THE TOP" SAYS NO.  The court of last resort is your Congressperson.  Know who they are.  Then, if you have to, use them to help you.  When you have filed all the necessary papers with your Congressperson they can file what is called a "Congressional"...basically an investigation into the charges you are making (being denied benefits, etc.).  Again, have all your facts in order.  The worst thing a Patient Advocate Office or VA Hospital Director has to deal with is a "Congressional"...they hate them and will do anything to avoid them (see below) because it has the stigma of a "black mark" on their record.

     11...THE POLITE THREAT.  I have used this once and it worked.  I skipped tip #10 and politely suggested to the Director of my VA hospital that it would be easier if we came to an accommodation rather than getting my Congressperson involved.  He agreed.

     12...USE THE SYSTEM! MAKE IT WORK FOR YOU!   There are ways and there are ways!  If you are in a Vocational Rehabilitation program such as Incentive Therapy (IT) or Compensated Work Therapy (CWT) you qualify for dental benefits if your dental work is necessary to find employment out there in the real world.  The VA will NOT tell you this.  You have to ask for it.

     If you are living in a VA Domiciliary for any reason (homelessness, vocational rehabilitation, alcohol rehabilitation, drug rehabilitation) you qualify for full medical care including eyeglasses and dental treatment.  Again, ask for it because it will NOT be offered.

     Once you receive dental care there must be follow up for at least three years although this may be at the discretion of the local dental facility. Ask for it and you will most likely get it.

     And, this is IMPORTANT, it is a common practice for vets to check into alcohol and drug rehab programs at the VA just to get medical benefits.  There is no law against this.  And it works!  The best part is that while you are in the program you will get complete medical care and the evaluations and screenings done during this time can help lay the foundation for any future claims.

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